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Forever punk!

Arhiva330 odgovora· poslednji 23. maj 2015.
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ME

Много сам се разочарао у Лемија кацам први и једини пут преслушао нови албум.
Брате, како су само карали некад... Јежим се док слушам неке ствари.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5tl1_uk00k

Citat:Treba mi sada bilo tko
Dal’ kurva ili anđeo
U mraku ionako ne vidim
Tad lakše ignoriram
Pomalo ružan osjećaj
Da još dugo neću naći mir

Nazovi to odnos bez srca
Perverzija ili fuk romansa
Budi tu, pričaj mi o jutru
Osvanut' ćemo više puta
Pripijeni na vrhuncu
A što dalje vidjet' ću

Bezobzirni, cinični
I dvoličnio do krajnosti
Ne dostižu nas emocije
Vrline si uzimamo
Sve drugo ostavljamo
Nešto kao samoposluživanje

Neke ti stvari nikad rekao nisam
Možda ti klaun više odgovara
Ali kriti se vječno ne može
Moja pustoš moja močvara

A što dalje vidjet' ću
Samo začepi i budi tu....
ME

Pank je isto što i treš u metalu - sranje muzika. Da je brzina bitna, nijedan pornić ne bi trajao duže od 8 minuta.

VA
Citat:Pank je isto što i treš u metalu - sranje muzika. Da je brzina bitna, nijedan pornić ne bi trajao duže od 8 minuta.

Opaaaa, konzervativac... Zgodna, mada netačna analogija.

RA
Citat:Opaaaa, konzervativac... Zgodna, mada netačna analogija.

Pank jeste (bar u početku bio) konzervativan, a Meśa podjebava verovatno. :d

Citat:The fact that prog has been replaced by punk is, by all means, either a historical error, or a historical tragedy. Previously, when an old genre was becoming extinct, it was being replaced with something really new - Classical with Jazz, Jazz with Rock, etc. Within rock itself, Rockabilly grew into Rock'n'Roll, Rock'n'Roll grew into Art Rock, Heavy Rock, etc., etc. - all new genres, with something original to offer to their listeners. Punk offered nothing new and never wanted to offer anything new - on the other hand, its battlecry was - 'let us get back into the past!'

So what's the conclusion? If you think that punk was a liberation movement, don't fool yourselves. The 'punk revolution' was in fact a conservative, throwback counter-revolution - an intentional try to drive the music back, not just to its roots, but to its primitive roots. The claim that 'art needs rejuvenation by returning to its roots' is ridiculous in this context. Punk wasn't a rejuvenation of rock music, it was its archaization; and the comparison of the Sex Pistols in rock music with Picasso in art does not work for obvious reasons.

Šta misliš o tome Valdemare?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgXiZ3w_wg

VA
Citat:The fact that prog has been replaced by punk is, by all means, either a historical error, or a historical tragedy. Previously, when an old genre was becoming extinct, it was being replaced with something really new - Classical with Jazz, Jazz with Rock, etc. Within rock itself, Rockabilly grew into Rock'n'Roll, Rock'n'Roll grew into Art Rock, Heavy Rock, etc., etc. - all new genres, with something original to offer to their listeners. Punk offered nothing new and never wanted to offer anything new - on the other hand, its battlecry was - 'let us get back into the past!'
So what's the conclusion? If you think that punk was a liberation movement, don't fool yourselves. The 'punk revolution' was in fact a conservative, throwback counter-revolution - an intentional try to drive the music back, not just to its roots, but to its primitive roots. The claim that 'art needs rejuvenation by returning to its roots' is ridiculous in this context. Punk wasn't a rejuvenation of rock music, it was its archaization; and the comparison of the Sex Pistols in rock music with Picasso in art does not work for obvious reasons.

Ovo je prilično netačno. Kad si već potegao slikarstvo, pank stoji prema tadašnjem roku u odnosu u kome fovizam stoji u odnosu prema impresionizmu. Pank upumpava energiju u muziku i vraća je jednostavnim, razumljivim i nepretencioznim melodijama i ritmovima. Pank je razbucao psihodelično bulažnjenje i slinavi komercijalni simfo-rok, bez njega bi se cela rok muzika svela na neku varijaciju ovoga dvoga. Cela alternativna muzička scena osamdesetih i devedesetih godina direktno je oslonjena na pank, a mnogo i današnjeg mejnstrima vuče korene iz njega. Taj Starostinov stav uopšte nije toliko široko prihvaćen da bi ga tek tako citirao kao nešto mnogo istinito i tačno.

RA
Citat:Taj Starostinov stav uopšte nije toliko široko prihvaćen da bi ga tek tako citirao kao nešto mnogo istinito i tačno.

Ma nisam ja ni rekao da je to istina. :) Samo mi se čini da je u pravu kad kaže da je pank revolucija u stvari nazadna evolucija na neki način, vraćanje starijih vrednosti poput proste strukture pesme, direktnog pristupa lišenog nekog suvišnog filozofiranja itd. A uticaj panka na kasniju muziku je svakako veliki, tu nema dileme. Iako ne slušam pank često i nisam baš upućen, nemam ništa protiv panka kao ni protiv "psihodeličnih bulažnjenja" i simfo-roka. :d

VA
Citat:Samo mi se čini da je u pravu kad kaže da je pank revolucija u stvari nazadna evolucija na neki način

Jeste, u smislu u kome je kubizam nazadan u odnosu na flamansko slikarstvo.

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Тако је! Најјачи бенд са ових простора.

KI

Karta je stigla još pre par dana. Mislim da će biti puno. Bilo koji od ovih bendova može da napuni Quarter a pogotovo sva tri. Biće ludnica! :)

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